Comments on: Gary Vaynerchuk Doesn’t Like Internet Marketers http://richquickreview.com/gary-vaynerchuk-and-internet-marketers/ Only source for honest online marketing reviews. Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:17:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Shane http://richquickreview.com/gary-vaynerchuk-and-internet-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-3426 Shane Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:54:29 +0000 http://richquickreview.com/?p=512#comment-3426 Brad, thanks for your input. I think changing the label or actively doing something about the label is a really good idea. In fact, I think just using the term "marketer" rather than "Internet marketer" is very clever and also very appropriate. After all, marketing <em>without</em> involving the Internet in one way or another is almost unthinkable nowadays and online and offline marketing have been merging for a long time. An added perk may be that you don't get the typical "what the hell is that?" response when people ask you what you do for a living, if you just say: I work in marketing. :D Brad, thanks for your input.
I think changing the label or actively doing something about the label is a really good idea. In fact, I think just using the term “marketer” rather than “Internet marketer” is very clever and also very appropriate. After all, marketing without involving the Internet in one way or another is almost unthinkable nowadays and online and offline marketing have been merging for a long time.
An added perk may be that you don’t get the typical “what the hell is that?” response when people ask you what you do for a living, if you just say: I work in marketing. :D

]]> By: Brad Gosse http://richquickreview.com/gary-vaynerchuk-and-internet-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-3423 Brad Gosse Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:52:54 +0000 http://richquickreview.com/?p=512#comment-3423 Shane. I agree with your commentary, however I am learning that sometimes if you can't beat them you need to join them. I am working towards not calling myself an Internet marketer and the longer. I now prefer the term marketer alone but then sometimes I am a product creator or producer. It's difficult when the landscape changes so much. Marketing today is not what it was 20 years ago. So do traditional titles even still stick? The problem is that most Internet marketers ARE scammers. They make those of us who do things properly look bad. We either need to change the title we assign to ourselves, or find a way to build an association that supports a standards and best practices policy. Shane.

I agree with your commentary, however I am learning that sometimes if you can’t beat them you need to join them. I am working towards not calling myself an Internet marketer and the longer. I now prefer the term marketer alone but then sometimes I am a product creator or producer.

It’s difficult when the landscape changes so much. Marketing today is not what it was 20 years ago. So do traditional titles even still stick?

The problem is that most Internet marketers ARE scammers. They make those of us who do things properly look bad. We either need to change the title we assign to ourselves, or find a way to build an association that supports a standards and best practices policy.

]]> By: Shane http://richquickreview.com/gary-vaynerchuk-and-internet-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-3154 Shane Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:32:47 +0000 http://richquickreview.com/?p=512#comment-3154 Hi Josh, Thanks for your comment! I agree, in a sense, Gary and I are talking about two different things, here. And that's kind of the point, really. Maybe I'm being a bit too positive about IM as a whole, looking mainly at the good bits and he's being too negative, looking mainly at all the scams and dishonesty. I personally hope that with time, we'll see more and more of the good stuff and as I stated in the video, I believe that marketing online has already begun changing what marketing and promoting products means - in a good way. But then, there's also forced continuity scams and rubbish Acai berry pills... Cheers, Shane Hi Josh,

Thanks for your comment!
I agree, in a sense, Gary and I are talking about two different things, here. And that’s kind of the point, really. Maybe I’m being a bit too positive about IM as a whole, looking mainly at the good bits and he’s being too negative, looking mainly at all the scams and dishonesty.
I personally hope that with time, we’ll see more and more of the good stuff and as I stated in the video, I believe that marketing online has already begun changing what marketing and promoting products means – in a good way. But then, there’s also forced continuity scams and rubbish Acai berry pills…

Cheers,
Shane

]]> By: Shane http://richquickreview.com/gary-vaynerchuk-and-internet-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-3153 Shane Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:27:20 +0000 http://richquickreview.com/?p=512#comment-3153 Hi Jonathan, Thanks for the retweet! Yes, I don't doubt Gary would have more interesting things to say about this. I'd love to discuss this subject with him and if I can, I'll try to make that happen, somehow. Cheers, Shane Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for the retweet! Yes, I don’t doubt Gary would have more interesting things to say about this. I’d love to discuss this subject with him and if I can, I’ll try to make that happen, somehow.

Cheers,
Shane

]]> By: The Real Josh http://richquickreview.com/gary-vaynerchuk-and-internet-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-3149 The Real Josh Mon, 18 Jan 2010 02:19:28 +0000 http://richquickreview.com/?p=512#comment-3149 I see the points you are trying to raise and I don't know if that was the exact market Gary was targeting. I think if you can safely and proudly tell people anywhere what you are doing then you don't have anything to worry about. I think he was targeting the IM that are shilling some crappy soda for 1000x what it is worth. If you are building a legit business and brand I don't thing there is any problem with that on or offline. Nice post. I see the points you are trying to raise and I don’t know if that was the exact market Gary was targeting. I think if you can safely and proudly tell people anywhere what you are doing then you don’t have anything to worry about. I think he was targeting the IM that are shilling some crappy soda for 1000x what it is worth. If you are building a legit business and brand I don’t thing there is any problem with that on or offline. Nice post.

]]> By: Jonathan http://richquickreview.com/gary-vaynerchuk-and-internet-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-3143 Jonathan Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:51:18 +0000 http://richquickreview.com/?p=512#comment-3143 Hi Shane I just tweeted out this post to the Twitter cocktail party. If Gary sees your post he'll almost definitely reply with something highly constructive - he's a brilliant social communicator - one of the best in the world. Jonathan Hi Shane

I just tweeted out this post to the Twitter cocktail party.

If Gary sees your post he’ll almost definitely reply with something highly constructive – he’s a brilliant social communicator – one of the best in the world.

Jonathan

]]> By: Shane http://richquickreview.com/gary-vaynerchuk-and-internet-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-3127 Shane Sun, 17 Jan 2010 07:44:37 +0000 http://richquickreview.com/?p=512#comment-3127 Thanks for your comment, Jason! Wow, 80% is more than I expected, to be hones (haven't done any CPA myself, yet). I agree that IM isn't going anywhere and if enough of us push in the right direction, the Internet can completely change what marketing (and doing business) means. And in that sense, I agree with Gary: Get out of the scammy and hypey stuff, because it's (hopefully) not going to last. Cheers, Shane Thanks for your comment, Jason!
Wow, 80% is more than I expected, to be hones (haven’t done any CPA myself, yet).

I agree that IM isn’t going anywhere and if enough of us push in the right direction, the Internet can completely change what marketing (and doing business) means. And in that sense, I agree with Gary: Get out of the scammy and hypey stuff, because it’s (hopefully) not going to last.

Cheers,
Shane

]]> By: Jason http://richquickreview.com/gary-vaynerchuk-and-internet-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-3124 Jason Sun, 17 Jan 2010 07:08:18 +0000 http://richquickreview.com/?p=512#comment-3124 Interesting videos! I actually met Gary last year around this time. He was speaking at Affiliate Summit West and we took a cab together to the airport. I had no idea who he was at the time until after. Anyways, I agree with both of you. I've worked in the cpa space for a few years and most of the advertisements are scams. Id say 80% of them except for some lead gens. I do also agree with you that advertising as a whole offline and online can be misleading and or scammy. The internet is big enough and will always have room for everyone. Sometimes certain products have a short shelf life but I think internet marketers will be around for as long as the internet is and there will also be a lot of money made. Interesting videos! I actually met Gary last year around this time. He was speaking at Affiliate Summit West and we took a cab together to the airport. I had no idea who he was at the time until after. Anyways, I agree with both of you. I’ve worked in the cpa space for a few years and most of the advertisements are scams. Id say 80% of them except for some lead gens. I do also agree with you that advertising as a whole offline and online can be misleading and or scammy. The internet is big enough and will always have room for everyone. Sometimes certain products have a short shelf life but I think internet marketers will be around for as long as the internet is and there will also be a lot of money made.

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